Anglo-America and Latin and "Hispanic" America

[BrazilianRockGirl]

The term Anglo-America is used to describe those parts of North America in which English in the main language. It should be noted that this is not a widely term. It is generally taken to include UNITES STATES and Canada, although a significant proportion of Canadians don´t speak English

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Latin America refers to the countries of South and North America (including Central America and the islands of the Caribbean) whose inhabitants speal a Romance Language. Most frequently the term Latin America is restricted to countries whose inhabitants speak either Spanish or Portuguese, but French-speaking areas of Haiti, French Guiana, and the French West Indies may also be included.

There are many languages historically and currently spoken in Latin America: Aymara, Creole/Patois,Guarani, Mapudugun, Mayan, Nahuatl, Portuguese, Quechua, Spanish, Sranan, and many others.
It should be noted that Latin

The reason for these diversities is because a large percentage of the people in Latin America are of mixed blood, the result of racial intermingling among European settlers, African slaves, and American natives. This mixture of cultures and keeping of certain traditions and doing away with others has made Latin America the unique, yet very influenced culture that it has today. Culture mixes are not only about the languages and religions, but also about the dance and music of Latin America as well.

Etymological note: Treating the term literally, one might expect the term to apply to cultures and regions in the Americas deriving from cultures speaking Romance languages (those descended from Latin).

However French-speaking areas of Latin America, such as Quebec and Acadia in Canada are not generally considered part of Latin America. Yet this was the original intention of the term. "Latin America" was first proposed during the French occupation of Mexico (1862-1867), when Napoleon III supported Archduke Maximilian's pretensions to be emperor of Mexico. The French hoped that an inclusive notion of "Latin" America would support their cause. Mexican citizens eventually expelled the French while retaining the term "Latino" this is one of history's more charming ironies.

The alternative term Iberoamerica is sometimes used to refer to the nations that were formerly colonies of Spain and Portugal as these two countries are located on the Iberian peninsula. The Organization of Ibero-American States (OEI) takes this defintion a step further, by including Spain and Portugal (often termed the Mother Countries of Latin America) among its member states, in addition to their Spanish and Portuguese speaking former colonies in America.



*Romance Languages

The Romance languages are a subfamily of the Italic Language specifically the descendants of the Vulgar Latin (Vulgar Latin is a blanket term covering the vernacular dialects of the Latin Language spoken in the vast provinces of Roman Empire starting from the second and third century). Latin itself is treated as an Italic but not a Romance language.



Roughly, from west to east, the Romance variants, or dialects, form a continuum. Portuguese, French, and Romanian are the three extreme deviations, though this does not imply that they are totally distinct. Sardinian is the most isolated and conservative variant. Languedocian Occitan could be tagged as the central "Western Romance by default".

There are many local varieties spoken in the Romance-language countries, and there is no clear differentiation between a 'language' and a 'dialect'. Roughly speaking, those varieties that are definitely separate languages include the main national languages (French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and Romanian), plus Catalan, Occitan (or Provençal), Sardinian, and Rumansh.

After that it becomes questionable: is Galician, for example, yet another full language, or is it a variety of Portuguese with strong influence of Spanish? Or rather a language, with Portuguese as a dialect of it (as some argue it is?) Naturally, political and cultural and local pride issues play a role in these debates. Moreover, languages that lacked officialdom, a central standard model, or a literary tradition, like Occitan, Sardinian or Rumansh, were further dialectalised. And some minor variants which might have developed in distict languages have been reduced to residual areas and restricted usage, like Astur-leonese or Aragonese.
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Hispanic America

Hispanic American is one of several terms used to describe residents of the US whose background are the Spanish speaking countries of LAtin America. It is used to identify immigrants and their descendants of a wide range of ethnicities, races, cultures and nationalities, who use Spanish as primary language. Hispanics are the largest minority group in the United States, comprising 13.4% of the population, i.e. about 40 million people in 2003. The Hispanic population grows at about 4% per year, much faster than other ethnic groups in the United States.
Often the term Hispanic is used synonymously with the word Latino.

However, a Hispanic specifically refers to people from Spain or the various Spanish speaking nations. Latinos are people of Latin American origin. For example a Brazilian would be Latino, but not specifically Hispanic (unless he or she is of Spanish origin as well). Likewise a Spaniard would be Hispanic according to most common definitions of the term, but not Latino. Some people would argue that as Spaniards are Europeans, they should not be included in a category designated as a "minority group" in the United States. However, others would counter that Spain and the Hispanic American nations, despite their many differences, are part of the same greater cultural sphere.
The term Hispanic is believed to have come into mainstream prominence following its inclusion in a question in the 1980 US Census which asked people to voluntarily identify if they were of "Spanish/Hispanic origin or descent".

Some people consider Hispanic to be too general as a label, and some consider it offensive, often preferring instead to use the term Latino which is viewed as a self-chosen term. This term states more clearly that it refers to people from Latin America, excluding Spain. The current use of the term Hispanic to describe the Spanish speaking peoples gained acceptance relatively recently, as a result of its promotion by the United States government. Previously, this group was commonly referred to as "Spanish-Americans", "Spanish-surnamed Americans", or "Spanish-speaking Americans", however these terms proved misleading or inaccurate in many cases.


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[rafael567]

IN latin america do they really call all north americans "anglos saxons"???

IF so thats bullshit.

[zumbi]

IN latin america do they really call all north americans "anglos saxons"???

IF so thats bullshit.

i doubt that most of them have even heard of that term.

in my experience, north american ("norteamericano") or "american" usually means US american.

if you're from mexico or canada, they just refer to you as mexican or canadian.

[American Black Man]

The term Anglo-America is used to describe those parts of North America in which English in the main language. It should be noted that this is not a widely term.

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[Latina-NYC]

IN latin america do they really call all north americans "anglos saxons"???

IF so thats bullshit.

No we don't, we call Anglo Saxons ,those who are European descendants...AKA: "white folks"

[rafael567]

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No we don't, we call Anglo Saxons ,those who are European descendants...AKA: "white folks"

IN that case then only white people should be called Latino.

Celia Cruz, Sammy Sosa... ect are NOT Latinos.

Neither are you.

[Latina-NYC]

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IN that case then only white people should be called Latino.

Celia Cruz, Sammy Sosa... ect are NOT Latinos.

Neither are you.

Maybe not to you, to me I'm a latina... Go tell a dark latino that they should be call black. We don't see things like you. When I think of Sammy I think of a Dominican man, not a "black" man, now If you want to call him black, then that's on you.

[rafael567]

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Maybe not to you, to me I'm a latina... Go tell a dark latino that they should be call black. We don't see things like you. When I think of Sammy I think of a Dominican man, not a "black" man, now If you want to call him black, then that's on you.

Dont you see the double standard??

You just said before that in "latin america" they only call white people anglo-saxon.

So isnt it true that only white people should be called Latino???

[SPINAROONI]

LATINA NYC IS TOO BLIND TO SEE THE DOUBLE STANDARDS BUT RAFAEL YOU HAVE MANY DOUBLE STANDARDS YOURSELF WHEN IT COMES TO RACE SO I WOULDNT BE TALKING.

[Latina-NYC]

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Dont you see the double standard??

You just said before that in "latin america" they only call white people anglo-saxon.

So isnt it true that only white people should be called Latino???

I was talking about white americans and Europeans... that's how we refere to them in Latin America. However, we also have fair skinned latinos as Paulina Rubio and Ricky Martin, one Mexican, one Puerto Rican...get it?

[rafael567]

Maybe not to you, to me I'm a latina... Go tell a dark latino that they should be call black. We don't see things like you.

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Aretha franklin

Shes not black. Shes a dark anglo-saxon woman.

[Latina-NYC]

Latinos or Hispanics are not seen as a race, but as a culture or ethnic group, get it?

[rafael567]

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I was talking about white americans and Europeans... that's how we refere to them in Latin America.

You still dont see the double standard.

If you only refer to white americans as anglo-saxon. THen why do you insist that non-white latin americans are still "latinos"???

[Latina-NYC]

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You still dont see the double standard.

If you only refer to white americans as anglo-saxon. THen why do you insist that non-white latin americans are still "latinos"???

I am not saying that the use of the term anglo saxon is "politically correct", I was just responding to your question. You asked what do we consider anglo-saxon in Latin America. Any how I will provide you with the definition of both anglo saxon and Latin according to Merriam-Webster dictionary.


Anglo-Saxon:
Main Entry: An·glo-Sax·on
Pronunciation: "a[ng]-glO-'sak-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin Anglo-Saxones, plural, alteration of Medieval Latin Angli Saxones, from Latin Angli Angles + Late Latin Saxones Saxons
Date: before 12th century
1 : a member of the Germanic peoples conquering England in the 5th century A.D. and forming the ruling class until the Norman conquest; compare ANGLE, JUTE, SAXON
2 a : ENGLISHMAN; specifically : a person descended from the Anglo-Saxons b : a white gentile of an English-speaking nation

Latin

Main Entry: [2]Latin
Function: noun
Date: before 12th century
1 : the Italic language of ancient Latium and of Rome and until modern times the dominant language of school, church, and state in western Europe; see INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES table
2 : a member of the people of ancient Latium
3 : a Catholic of the Latin rite
4 : a member of one of the Latin peoples; specifically : a native or inhabitant of Latin America 5 : LATIN ALPHABET

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[American Black Man]

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You still dont see the double standard.

If you only refer to white americans as anglo-saxon. THen why do you insist that non-white latin americans are still "latinos"???

I am not saying that the use of the term anglo saxon is "politically correct", I was just responding to your question. You asked what do we consider anglo-saxon in Latin America. Any how I will provide you with the definition of both anglo saxon and Latin according to Merriam-Webster dictionary.


Anglo-Saxon:
Main Entry: An·glo-Sax·on
Pronunciation: "a[ng]-glO-'sak-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin Anglo-Saxones, plural, alteration of Medieval Latin Angli Saxones, from Latin Angli Angles + Late Latin Saxones Saxons
Date: before 12th century
1 : a member of the Germanic peoples conquering England in the 5th century A.D. and forming the ruling class until the Norman conquest; compare ANGLE, JUTE, SAXON
2 a : ENGLISHMAN; specifically : a person descended from the Anglo-Saxons b : a white gentile of an English-speaking nation

Latin

Main Entry: [2]Latin
Function: noun
Date: before 12th century
1 : the Italic language of ancient Latium and of Rome and until modern times the dominant language of school, church, and state in western Europe; see INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGES table
2 : a member of the people of ancient Latium
3 : a Catholic of the Latin rite
4 : a member of one of the Latin peoples; specifically : a native or inhabitant of Latin America 5 : LATIN ALPHABET

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You can provide the definitions all you want.

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You still dont see the double standard.

If you only refer to white americans as anglo-saxon. THen why do you insist that non-white latin americans are still "latinos"???

But if you're doing this^^ you are contradicting yourself.

[SPINAROONI]

LATIN NYC HOW MUCH SPANISH/LATIN ANCESTRY DO YOU THINK THIS COLOMBIAN GUY HAS JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM.IS HE RACIALLY LATIN TO YOU.IS HE JUST AS LATIN AS SAY ANDY GARCIA.

[Latina-NYC]

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But if you're doing this^^ you are contradicting yourself.

First of all the terms were not created by latin americans themselves ( the term anglo saxon Etymology: New Latin Anglo-Saxones, plural, alteration of Medieval Latin Angli Saxones, from Latin Angli Angles + Late Latin Saxones Saxons
Date: before 12th century

It is a term used by some Latin Americans it is not used frequently and as an American, even if I want to refere to "all of us" as simply Americans some AA want to separate themselves, so I call them what they want to be call... You want to be called an African American instead of an American, hey, I'll call you that. I consider myself an American with a Hispanic heritage, but I wouldn't call myself a Mestiza American. Once again, I am sorry if I cant see Sammy as an African Dominican, I see him as a Dominicano, and if he was here he would agree with me. You can see things the way you want to see them, if you want to see Sammy as an African Dominican, you go ahead, that is your opinion and you are entitled to one, but don't come here saying that Latin Americans are incorrect because we don't label people the way they do in the states. Let me remind you I am an American born in Queens, NYC

[Latina-NYC]

LATIN NYC HOW MUCH SPANISH/LATIN ANCESTRY DO YOU THINK THIS COLOMBIAN GUY HAS JUST BY LOOKING AT HIM.IS HE RACIALLY LATIN TO YOU.IS HE JUST AS LATIN AS SAY ANDY GARCIA.

If I ask him his nationality he would most likely say he is Colombian, not african Colombian, so I would see him as a colombian man. I guess I look at things differently.

[SPINAROONI]

LATIN NYC YOU HAVENT ANSWERED MY QUESTION HOW MUCH SPANISH ANCESTRY DO YOU THINK THAT COLOMBIANO HAS IF ANY AT ALL.

[Benin]

Latinos or Hispanics are not seen as a race, but as a culture or ethnic group, get it?

You Latin’s views are backward, and corrupt. The stupidity is depressingly hilarious.